Stever: Rock and Roll? For sake of accuracy, your complaint is really about electronic P&W in the church (electric Jesus—sensuality). Let’s just call it P&W for short. No, it is not necessary for salvation. Only Christ is. Is P&W necessary for the Lord’s ministry? I believe that question can apply to any tool the Lord uses to reach people. Does He need TV evangelists? Does He need radio evangelists? Does God need them? No, but He sure utilizes them and I know some folks that think TV/radio is of Satan. Stever, when you say: "I don’t recall any prophets, saints, apostles, or even Christ using rock music to do the work of the Lord", I believe this is a strawman argument. They didn’t have TV, radio, and internet in the times of Jesus either. Yet, Christian ministry today is reaching thousands, if not millions, for Christ via these media. If we got rid of “it” , God would just use another vehicle to accomplish His work because God uses anything and everything to try and bring the lost to Him (even....sinners). Stever said: "Should we hang onto something that causes many to stumble and then was not even commanded to be used in the first place? " Commanded? God commands us to love Him and love others. What are you talking about? Stever said, "I know it causes me to stumble, and based on what Paul taught we should not enjoy anything that would cause a weaker brother to stumble." Stever, you're scaring me, bro. Please tell me you aren’t equating P&W to alcoholism or tobacco addiction? If you really are a “weaker” brother, just like I won’t drink a glass of wine in front of a recovering alcoholic, or smoke a pipe in front of an “ex” smoker, I promise I won’t play my bass guitar in front of you. I wouldn't want my freedom to become a stumbling block for you. Just let me know who you are when we meet. I don’t accept your premise that P&W is being used by Satan as an evil influence in the churches. BTW, in the big scheme of things, I believe the true stumbling block is the one mentioned in 1 Corinthians 1:23, "but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles". Stever, the questions and doubts about something that is keeping you from loving the Lord are in YOUR mind, not mine. Those churchy folks who’ll end up in the Lake of Fire are those like the Pharisees who knew Scripture, but failed to recognize (or learn to know) the one to whom the Scriptures referred. In other words, they’re the superficial Christians without the indwelling Spirit (born of the Spirit). Stever said, "I am confident that if each man will set his heart to fully seek the Lord, the Lord will meet him and tell him great and mighty things and will reveal the secret things of God. The secret of the Lord is with them that fear Him and to them will he show His covenant." God has already revealed this secret to me and all my P&W brothers and sisters indwelt by His Spirit, which is “Christ in you, the hope of glory” (Colossians 1:27). They also know, as heirs, they have full access to the throne of God to be able to call Him "Abba, Father" (Daddy Father). Stever said, "Only a few will find the narrow path that leads to life, many are on the Broadway that leads to destruction." The path that leads to destruction is not P&W, nor is it Rock-and-roll. It is any life without Christ. You need to re-tweak your theology. --Ziobuck opining