Stever,,, one is either saved, or they are not saved. Here is my simple question for you. Is everyone that is involved with Christian alternative, rock and roll music going to hell as a result of their music. Despite their obvious hearts to serve???? That is the question. Take your time. If your answer is yes... then that also means there are people singing hymns on Sunday who are also going to hell...... The answer is probably a most definite yes.. The road is narrow in the church and the concert.... and the office... You are either saved, or you are not. God is the only one that knows this information. Find a scripture that proves me wrong. It is true that by our fruits, by our Love we are known to others. This is true. So,,, if I bear much fruit and do many amazing things for my community and my family,, but the whole time am just using the church thing to further my agenda and popularity.. is it not nice to know, that God knows?.. You dont!!!!!! but God does!... That is the beauty of serving something higher than you or myself. The customs within the different denominations have changed over time...in many areas. I want you to show me a scripture that proves that Satan is the inventor,, the creator of Rock music which is split into many different types................ You had made a reference that Rock and Roll was not in the Bible.. you are correct. Neither is Trinity but we have a pretty good idea dont we.....??? My message was clear in showing that the biggest obstacle to the gospel getting outside the four walls of a man made church building... is fear.. the fear of anything new, the fear of anything that reminds us of our sin before Christ. I do not have to Love Rock and Roll music, to understand what I SEE FIRST HAND.... in my life. I am going to a concert/worship service tonight. People will hear the gospel there, and they will worship, no matter what you say or believe. Tonight, people will worship. Tonight a mother and father will stand by their teenagers side, worshipping God... perhaps with ear plugs in.. all standing as one unit, worshipping the God of the heavens.. and not one person can stop the intent of their hearts.... Only the God that Loves us can stop it. Is everyone being mislead tonight????? that is my question. Am I saved because I stopped listening to secular music????? Because I dont.. I listen to music where people profess,, HEY, I LOVE JESUS.... and I always say.. Prove it. You're music will not prove your Love for Jesus to me, but your life is a good indication. But at least I improve my odds by keeping it Christian.. anyone can say they are.. but again,, God knows, I can only guess or speculate, observe. Are the newsboys misleading the world.........???? how about when they lead worship?.. If they sing a Hymn will that validate them for the moment???? I'm confused. Hey,, it just hit me. I'm done trying to explain this or justify it.. I am going to follow Jesus, to the best of my ability, occasionally falling,,, sometimes sadly on purpose.. man I hate those moments.. isnt that cool?,, I hate those moments... I cannot believe where I was, and the place Jesus has brought me by grace... God bless you guys.. jC Solid Rock.