Stever: Jesus didn't expect us to be fruit inspectors. Your last two posts did not come across as edifying, or as "iron sharpening iron". They come across as being very divisive, and that is NOT of God. I have not been to a God Men event (yet) but I have been to several PK events and I can tell you they are life-changing, life-healing, absolutely electric and of God. Like so many things in life, call it diversity, not everything is appealing to everybody. So you don't like the way the gospel is presented thru PK or God Men. My guess is you only know what someone else has opined about these events and they may not even have presented them in a fair way. Perhaps you could humble yourself and actually attend one of these events? You seem to have your notions about what is of God and what is not of God. I think you are mistaught. Occultic rock music disguished as worship? Gee, I'm a bass player for my churches Praise and Worhip team. And I can tell you He loves it when we use the musical talents He has given us to sing HIS praises. Thank you very much. My God is not so small that He can't use every thing in His sovereignty to bring people to Himself, including rock music, including PK and God Men. I'm sorry you feel the church is out of time. Be patient. The End Times are coming and we will be persecuted and driven underground. I'm sure that will finally put a spring into your writings. BTW, do you even know what is worship in God's eyes? Perhaps you do, but I'll reinforce it for you. The Apostle Paul ( Romans 12:1) says, "Therefore, I urge you, brothers, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God—this is your spiritual [ Or reasonable] act of worship." We, ourselves, are to be used for God's purposes. I've seen enough of Brad and have talked to him and written to him enough to have a sense of his heart for the Lord. He is a brother whether you believe it or not. And God IS using him in a powerful way, not only for spreading the gospel, but healing the wounded with his gift of comedy. I'm not a fruit inspector, but I don't like the fruit you've been slinging so far. --Ziobuck with a disapproving head shake. P.S. What got you off on a tangent about "children" and Christians?