1. Ideology isn't static. Voting scores are fun, and sometimes can be useful, but I don't think any political scientist considers them accurate measures of ideology. This is because ideology is so hard to measure. Scholars still argue over what it means to be a "liberal." Obviously, the meaning of that word has changed a great deal over the last 200 years, and it still means different things in different situations. Basing your evaluation of someone's ideology on their score from some think tank or special interest group can be misleading. For instance, say someone votes against the President's tax cuts because there weren't enough spending cuts to prevent deficit spending. Is that conservative or liberal? Or say someone votes against the Federal Marriage Amendment because they don't believe the Federal Government should have that authority, but they support state amendments. Is that conservative or liberal? So you see, there are tremendous problems with trying to objectively measure someone's thoughts. We got into this because you said that you didn't think the Far Left loved America. I said maybe, and that probably there are some extremists from all political persuasions who don't love our country. The vast majority, though, do love this country. Then you somehow decided that those who voted for John Kerry hate this country, meaning roughly half of the American electorate hates America. When you find the planet on which that is a rational argument, I will join you there. 2. Fox's lobbying of American government is not unusual. It happens all the time. Heck, the other day, the PM of Israel addressed the US Congress to enlist support if there is a war with Iran. Foreign governments are constantly lobbying American lawmakers in an effort to change policies. It's especially common from Mexico and Canada, because we share borders and trade openly with each other. 3. There are lots of children of illegal immigrants in our schools. Some of them are actually U.S. citizens, some of them are not. I personally would rather those kids be getting an education than running around in the streets getting into trouble. If they're going to live in this country, wouldn't you rather them be able to get a good job and pay their taxes and contribute to society? Secondly, the story about the emergency room is dubious. I've never heard of nurses forgoing the usual triage rules in favor of splitting people up based on citizenship status. Insurance status, maybe. But not citizenship. 4. Illegal immigrants have broken the law. That's why I think they ought to get in the back of the line, pay back taxes, and pay a fine. Only after they've done those things, fulfilled a residency requirement, and kept a clean record, should they be able to become citizens. That's what I support, that's what the President supports, what Democrats and Republicans in Congress support. The reason for this is simple: we cannot arrest and deport 12-20 million people. It's impractical. Thus, we have to work with what he have. The House bill that the extreme right Republicans came up with makes it illegal for anyone to give aid to an illegal immigrant. That means it would be illegal for a church group to provide a warm meal to someone who came to them. It would be illegal for a charity to provide a bed for a homeless person. That's immoral.