Spaceship: 1. Thanks for the comic relief. Let's see...I had alway heard Dennis Kucinich had the reputation of holding the most left-wing congressional voting record. But, according to the American Conservative Union, Kerry has a lifetime rating of 6 percent, compared to 15 for Kucinich and 19 for Sen. Joe Lieberman. Sens. Hillary Clinton scored 13 percent. Only the likes of Sens. Teddy Kennedy and Barbara Boxer have more left-wing records than Kerry. In contrast, Sen. John Breaux, one of the upper chamber’s few remaining moderate Democrats, has a 46. If you do not think KERRY is extreme, perhaps YOU ARE! Personally, I believe John Kerry does love his country. How could he not? Instead of being in jail for aiding and abetting the enemy (Vietnamese government), he was made a senator in the U.S. Senate. Ah, we Americans are so forgiving and forgetful. BTW, you said, "Ideology isn't really a static measurement. It's always relative to where you are." That is pure psycho-babble. You can't get any more static (other than zero) than a 6% rating by the ACU for a "life-time" voting record. 2. I still think you are on Vicente Fox's payroll. My conclusions about Fox is based on his meddling with our country instead of paying attention to his own. Two and a half years ago, Mr. Fox visited three southwestern states--New Mexico, Arizona, and Texas--and their political elites. His business was to put pressure on our political leaders for amnesty. Then, after being wined and dined by the submissive governors and lawmakers, Mr. Fox proceeded to harangue the aliens in New Mexico to push for amnesty themselves. There are a couple of little problems here. The most obvious is that the head of state of a foreign government, which is about to enter negotiations with the Untied States over the issue of immigration, is actively and openly seeking to apply political pressures within this country to influence both the negotiations and the internal politics of the nation. (Back in the Cold War, when foreign nations did this sort of thing, it was called "subversion," and foreign agents who engaged in it were either kicked out or locked up) Then there is yet another little problem. The U.S. Constitution explicitly states (Article I, section 10), "No state shall enter into any treaty, alliance, or confederation." OK, no state has, but the point of the constitutional language is to prevent states from conducting their own foreign policies and reserve to the federal government—(rightly so)—the authority to conduct relations with foreign countries. 3. Disagree. Concern for unemployed, uneducated, uninsured has always been a conservative issue. The difference between left and right on these issues is usually one of accountability and practicality. The left talks a good game, but doesn't deliver. They want to throw all kinds of money at the problem...my money and yours. I'm not sure if "most immigrant don't tap into public services" is true or not. My gut feel is that it is NOT true. My wife has worked in public schools here in Tucson and there are a lot of immigrant kids in the system. I don't know their legal status, but their poor English would point the other way. Also, heard a few first-hand accounts of people waiting for hospital emergency room services. Nurses divided those waiting to be serve into two groups, illegals and legals with insurance. Bet you can guess who got served first. Yes, the illegals! 4. GLad to hear you think the law is important. I was being to wonder. We have differing view points though. You seem to think crossing a sovereign nation's borders is not a bad thing, because after all, the crossers are just trying to get a better life. Well, the first thing about treating one's alcoholism is to admit you're an alcoholic. In kind, the first thing in solving an immigration problem is to recognize that laws are being violated. Our country doesn't seem to be united in that understanding. I think the Republicans are trying to say if you are a business knowingly hiring illegal aliens, then you are breaking the law. Libs sure hate accountability. BTW, regarding churches, charities, and good Samaritans: Good stuff. It's absolutey required by our faith to help the less fortunate. But, you don't do this by overthrowing the laws of the land. You use your own monies, not tax payer monies. You help by teaching the aliens your language. You help by helping them become legal. Also, have you ever heard of missions trips? Habitat for humanity? Go there and help them. Build a house. Help them plant and harvest. Help them help themselves. Your Christian ethics should start by obeying the law. --Ziobuck just answering the comments